tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4964885632131848660.post2296701872159825032..comments2023-03-31T06:55:42.398-07:00Comments on Dinner With Max Jenke: Horror In The Age Of YouTubeJeff Allardhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04265550466781988388noreply@blogger.comBlogger11125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4964885632131848660.post-46734197476196550892010-02-05T08:19:05.277-08:002010-02-05T08:19:05.277-08:00Amanda, you're right. I think it's just my...Amanda, you're right. I think it's just my generational prejudices causing me to worry about the effects of having too much access to material that used to be real work to find. You know, the usual old fogey-style rant: "if people don't discover this stuff they way I discovered it...blah, blah, blah..." As I said at the beginning of the blog, my young son loves to watch scary previews on YouTube and as he gets older, that may (hopefully) prove to be a formative memory for him in appreciating horror films.Jeff Allardhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04265550466781988388noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4964885632131848660.post-3713472845931021652010-02-04T11:03:11.095-08:002010-02-04T11:03:11.095-08:00On the flipside, YouTube has been a place for me t...On the flipside, YouTube has been a place for me to go to watch (and re-watch) many hard to find great television shows and made for tv movies. I feel the same way about Hulu and other streaming sites. I love watching Cocaine: One Man's Seduction online. It reminded me of the days when I'd have that little TV perched on my kitchen counter and I'd be there on the stool watching with wide eyes as Dennis Weaver snorted one down! Good times, indeed! :)<br /><br />I think horror is alluring to some whether or not our parents forbid us or it's more readily available or whatever, we just like it. And those who do will seek it out and enjoy it. Maybe it's a good thing Killer Party is on YouTube because for most of the younger set there are not VCRs in the house nor is there a legit DVD release to discover, so why not stumble across it online?Amanda By Nighthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01910620012465381103noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4964885632131848660.post-83745609404168262362010-01-27T06:15:06.722-08:002010-01-27T06:15:06.722-08:00Yeah, on the one hand - because we've become s...Yeah, on the one hand - because we've become so spoiled - I wouldn't want to go back to having things be so hard to obtain but yet I know that growing up when everything wasn't right there for the taking helped shaped my sensibilities as a fan.Jeff Allardhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04265550466781988388noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4964885632131848660.post-48374693120221622152010-01-26T20:26:54.601-08:002010-01-26T20:26:54.601-08:00Great post. I have to say the VHS days of old are ...Great post. I have to say the VHS days of old are something to be cherished.<br /><br />Watching horror movies based on VHS cover art led to some awesome flicks and to lots and lots of garbage.<br /><br />Even trading movies back in the day was a thrill. I saw Cannibal Holocaust on a dubbed 8th generation VHS tape from a trade.<br /><br />YouTube makes it easier but yeah the buildup, the anticipation is sadly gone.the jaded viewerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06187249754406306760noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4964885632131848660.post-9826688289242442552010-01-26T18:48:48.501-08:002010-01-26T18:48:48.501-08:00I'm thinking YouTube continues the same impuls...I'm thinking YouTube continues the same impulse that gave us monster magazines and those highlights movies such as Terror In The Isles. <br />If the scene/monster/killing is interesting enough I'd figure the viewer would track down the entire film at some point. <br /><br />But since people in general have shorter attention spans and less patience for building suspense, I wouldn't be surprised to meet some kid who proclaims his love for 'classic horror' based solely on watching snippets on YouTube. <br />I know that for myself, it's become way too convenient to start up a movie online and then wander away from it the moment the action slows... whereas, back in the 'old days' that movie would have been all I had and ever second would have been savored.Timmy Crabcakeshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14737954661234574830noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4964885632131848660.post-80081029523176765092010-01-26T10:20:38.940-08:002010-01-26T10:20:38.940-08:00On the upside, I'm sure older fans thought tha...On the upside, I'm sure older fans thought that home video would kill the mystique of horror by making it too accessible and yet somehow it didn't so maybe horror is able to endure no matter how much things change.Jeff Allardhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04265550466781988388noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4964885632131848660.post-47124985894661888452010-01-26T10:18:57.158-08:002010-01-26T10:18:57.158-08:00Very well said...your post and the comments. The c...Very well said...your post and the comments. The combination of not "supposed" to watch this paired with the hard to find factor created a kind of magic in my youth that definately influenced me for life....some may say not in a good way. :) <br /><br />Cheers!Chris 'Frog Queen' Davishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15080568376145572154noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4964885632131848660.post-58606668534499300742010-01-26T09:10:57.804-08:002010-01-26T09:10:57.804-08:00I see your point. Maybe its my idealistic/nostalgi...I see your point. Maybe its my idealistic/nostalgically inclined mind at work but I'd hope that as they get older they'd opt for the experience vs. instant gratification. But I don't think that will happen. Sigh.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4964885632131848660.post-67146222192349351692010-01-26T08:19:12.372-08:002010-01-26T08:19:12.372-08:00PoT, as an adult I'm all over the ready availi...PoT, as an adult I'm all over the ready availibilty of everything but I'm so glad I grew up during a time when it wasn't so easy to get one's horror fix. That's an experience I wouldn't want to trade. <br /><br />Even with restricting what kids can watch, when the time does come for someone to be able to watch more adult material, there's no question as to whether they'll be able to get to any movie they want. Back in the day, even if you were old enough to see a movie like The Wicker Man, you couldn't because it was a 'lost' film for many years. I had the issue of Cinefantastique devoted to it and I thought for ages that article would be the closest I'd ever get to seeing the actual movie. Now it's on YouTube. <br /><br />And Will, the romance of VHS is something that will sadly never come again. Before my parents bought a VCR, they'd rent one for two weeks during the holidays and for those two weeks, I'd be trying to squeeze in as many titles as I could. That was how I first saw Dawn of the Dead, Texas Chain Saw Massacre, Deep Red, and Zombie. The idea that I'd ever actually own those movies - and about a thousand other horror films - would've blown my mind! <br /><br />I'm sure future generations of horror fans will have their own experiences to wax nostalgic about but they won't beat the glory days of VHS.Jeff Allardhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04265550466781988388noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4964885632131848660.post-36752934517276532802010-01-26T07:37:13.669-08:002010-01-26T07:37:13.669-08:00I must say, as someone born in 1970, I agree with ...I must say, as someone born in 1970, I agree with every word of this post! The illicit romance of the video store horror shelves is something I'll never forget. For my 16th birthday my best friend somehow got his dad to rent us the uncut version of RE-ANIMATOR. Oh man that was some birthday party. Other great early horror videos that were age-inappropriate were DEAD & BURIED and the Nastassja Kinski version of CAT PEOPLE. SUSPIRIA, BEYOND THE DARKNESS and ZOMBIE all followed!Will Erricksonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16285306262078600804noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4964885632131848660.post-57632876184630537602010-01-26T06:48:54.845-08:002010-01-26T06:48:54.845-08:00I think this is applicable across the board as the...I think this is applicable across the board as the interwebs allows for the easy accessibilty of all things. I agree, it loses some of those alluring elements like danger and having to carefully plot (at least if your're a kid anyways) how to get a hold of a film or find that friend who's parents don't mind showing them. <br /><br />But I also think its up to the parents to teach their kids and to keep that mystique going. I think a big part of the reason why I got into horror had to do with my parents regulating what I could see and what I couldn't (it may be harder to do for the internet generation, but its no less important). That kind of increased the mystique and its really what drew me to the genre. If mommy and daddy say no, that means I've gotta try that much harder to see it.<br /><br />Anywhos, bottom line, mom and dad still need to play the part and regulate most of what kids do during their formative years. Allowing them 24/7 access to the internet will in fact dilute some of the 'joy' in watching films and in turn, warp their perception of what that experience is and should be.<br /><br />Great post.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com