tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4964885632131848660.post6451992604099981897..comments2023-03-31T06:55:42.398-07:00Comments on Dinner With Max Jenke: Five Ways To Save HalloweenJeff Allardhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04265550466781988388noreply@blogger.comBlogger12125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4964885632131848660.post-16146955511334912752009-09-02T12:46:49.293-07:002009-09-02T12:46:49.293-07:00Hey Jay, believe me - I'm not really looking f...Hey Jay, believe me - I'm not really looking for a return of the Cult of the Thorn! But even though that storyline was mishandled, at least it had a pulpy appeal at heart (you can't go too wrong with creepy cults) as opposed to whatever randomness RZ was tossing out. You're probably right, though, in noting that RZ's reboot gave Halloween a renewed appeal with the teen audience of today - we'll see where the series goes from here!Jeff Allardhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04265550466781988388noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4964885632131848660.post-76305943531130478602009-09-02T12:02:30.677-07:002009-09-02T12:02:30.677-07:00and you're right...the over the top brutality ...and you're right...the over the top brutality is not scary. The only thing scary about it is that it may inspire any kids who are thinking of chopping up their family and neighbors to do it with Michael Myers incessant, hardcore, knife jabbing style.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09979914565647698188noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4964885632131848660.post-37410446671435122852009-09-02T11:55:04.811-07:002009-09-02T11:55:04.811-07:00the cult of thorn? ahhhhhhh! I hope not! lol. Grea...the cult of thorn? ahhhhhhh! I hope not! lol. Great article, I agree with your thoughts. I truly believe that the Zombie films existed only to make the Halloween films cool again. And it actually worked...F1309 came out and NMOES is fast approaching. Zombie's Halloween beat them all to the punch. I think us fans will be able to once again settle back into that late '70s creepy horror mode as we saw in Carpenter's original. Hopefully Dimension reads your post!Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09979914565647698188noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4964885632131848660.post-64360327394019539072009-09-01T21:03:33.620-07:002009-09-01T21:03:33.620-07:00Unk, I dig your ideas! I think that no matter what...Unk, I dig your ideas! I think that no matter what, the series is going to have to work around RZ's movies. Which isn't anything new for Halloween - they already forgot about three whole movies when they did H2O! I do think that RZ's cast has left the building with this one so it looks like some kind of fresh start will be in order. The news that Steve Miner may be up for the gig isn't terrible but not too encouraging either. We'll see what happens. <br /><br />Zombo, thanks! I'm all for filmmakers taking creative risks but I think when working with a franchise, a different set of skills is important. It's like when Jon Favreau took on Iron Man - he listened to the fans, he worked to best service the characters and the mythology - he didn't free feel to go off on a tangent. I know there's been comic books published recently telling new stories within the Halloween universe that I've heard do a good job of hewing to the spirit of the original films - so why can't a movie do the same?Jeff Allardhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04265550466781988388noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4964885632131848660.post-16468028703828522622009-09-01T17:13:35.790-07:002009-09-01T17:13:35.790-07:00Very well thought out and argued point of view. I ...Very well thought out and argued point of view. I agree the bogeyman and the suspense must come back. And an excellent point made about familiarity with a character and why you should not tamper with that familiarity.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4964885632131848660.post-76116861623877135822009-09-01T16:56:17.620-07:002009-09-01T16:56:17.620-07:00How's this for a reboot Jeff?...
You start wi...How's this for a reboot Jeff?...<br /><br />You start with the ending of RZ's H2 then you pull back and you see a lone girl sitting in a movie theater and watching it. She gets up and walks out. You see a shadowy man following her. She tries to run but somehow he catches up to her and grabs her arm. He says "Mrs Strode, How did you like the movie?" She says "It's bullshit all of it. " Then you cut to a diner all decorated for Halloween and she is sitting across from the man. He has a pen and pencil in his hand taking notes. She says to him, "If you must know, this is what really happened..." cue theme!<br /><br />or....<br /><br />If you must keep the same cast...<br /><br />You start with the end of RZ's Halloween 2 again and then Scout as Laurie wakes up in bed in the hospital. The nurse (sheri Moon) is sitting next to her. She says "Dr. Loomis, she's delusional she keeps saying that her attacker is her brother!" Malcolm McDowell as Loomis shakes his head in disbelief. Later we find Mcdowell and scout in a room having a therapy session. Dr Loomis says "lets try this again Laurie but no more nonsense about Michael Myers being your brother or me writing a book about him. I especially don't want to hear about your friend Annie's death again, she visits you every day!" Scout looks up at him and says "O.k. I'm ready to tell you what really happened....cue halloween theme!<br /><br />Sure, both are sort of Bobby Ewing shower moments that will drive the fans crazy but at least they'd be original start off points!kindertraumahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07176839856388835793noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4964885632131848660.post-47610053776806983832009-08-31T11:48:31.285-07:002009-08-31T11:48:31.285-07:00No problem, Wings!No problem, Wings!Jeff Allardhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04265550466781988388noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4964885632131848660.post-3779912020534072002009-08-31T11:39:14.278-07:002009-08-31T11:39:14.278-07:00Doh! And I knew your name was Jeff, too, yet Max i...Doh! And I knew your name was Jeff, too, yet Max is what I wrote.<br /><br />Need. More. Coffee.Wings1295https://www.blogger.com/profile/08045644215235749353noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4964885632131848660.post-19532939451757840472009-08-31T11:33:44.152-07:002009-08-31T11:33:44.152-07:00CB, a Season of the Witch remake would be sweet! A...CB, a Season of the Witch remake would be sweet! And while that won't happen anytime soon, Mike Doughtery probably would be a good candidate to helm a Halloween movie. However, I suspect that he has more of a feel for fantasy material than slasher stuff. Just a hunch. <br /><br />Wings, I'll be keeping my fingers crossed that they ditch the over-the-top violence of Zombie's take. Also, feel free to call me Jeff! <br /><br />And CRwM, 'just do something new' is a great idea but as long as studios see a source of revenue in properties like Halloween, that ain't gonna happen. Studios like making money! That said, they can learn to manage these franchises with a little more care. <br /><br />I doubt if we'll ever see a new Halloween movie as strong as, say, Casino Royale is to the Bond films but then again, if the right talent got involved there isn't any reason why there couldn't be.Jeff Allardhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04265550466781988388noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4964885632131848660.post-83388250774412247632009-08-31T10:46:38.835-07:002009-08-31T10:46:38.835-07:00I would add:
0. Cast more rap stars
-1. Two word...I would add:<br /><br />0. Cast more rap stars<br /><br />-1. Two words: "In space . . . "<br /><br />-2. Guest appearance by the Leprechaun<br /><br />-3. Remake Mike Myers as sassy African American woman with a snappy catch phrase - "I don't think so, sugar" - she says every time she kills somebody<br /><br />-4. Expand the potential audience by going for a PG13 rating<br /><br />-5. Emphasize the really great and completely sensible supernatural elements that were introduced later in the series<br /><br />Any of these should do it.<br /><br />All joking aside, perhaps the big picture here is that Halloween is really a dud as a franchise. You listed off 4 "good" Halloween flicks, but there's been 9 of them (not counting the off-continuity number 3). That means less than half the pictures in the series have actually been good.<br /><br />The lesson here may be that, statistically, you're already working with the odds against you when you work with this franchise. Why continue to throw good effort after bad prolonging the life of a franchise that hits less than half the time? Just do something new.CRwMhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07896615209770501945noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4964885632131848660.post-91293312777624750302009-08-31T10:26:16.082-07:002009-08-31T10:26:16.082-07:00Max, you make so many great points there, anything...Max, you make so many great points there, anything I say would just be echoing you.<br /><br />I really, really, REALLY hope that they decide to just do a fresh, free from Zombie-lore, Michael Myers/Halloween tale. They don't HAVE to come right out and say it follows any other film. Just lose so much of the gore and in your face shit and move back to the shadows and mystery.<br /><br />We can hope, right?<br /><br />Great post!Wings1295https://www.blogger.com/profile/08045644215235749353noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4964885632131848660.post-10347870212347704442009-08-31T09:59:26.559-07:002009-08-31T09:59:26.559-07:00I'd love to see a "Halloween III:Season o...I'd love to see a "Halloween III:Season of the Witch" remake combined with some Myers action in the next outing and judging from the good reviews about the upcoming "Trick r Treat", have Mike Dougherty direct. It sounds like he knows how to make a real Halloween flick.Cheap Beerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06369598751083326676noreply@blogger.com